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Tema: F1 2021 - G.P. Nº 21 - ARABIA SAUDÍ

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    Unas fotillos de ayer.










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    Jajajajajajajajaja la reacción de Fernando y Ricciardo viendo la mega vuelta de Verstappen, cuando ha rozado el muro y al ver que aún así ha marcado el mejor S1.









    Vídeo del momento : https://twitter.com/startonpole/stat...01417085698061




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    Si es que estaba siendo un vueltón. Deseando ver qué nos regalan los cazaziguadatos del foro.



    Annotated Wheel Adjustments @AnnotatedWA · 1h


    0.41s improvement on the delta for #Verstappen under braking into T27.




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    Los números de la Clasificatoria de Jeddah:







    Buscando la imperfección perfecta...

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    Aquí se ve mejor, y encima con anotaciones de lo que va haciendo.




    https://twitter.com/AnnotatedWA/stat...111374851?s=20


    Y sobre ese vídeo:




    Annotated Wheel Adjustments @AnnotatedWA · 1h

    And the interesting thing to me was;-

    o Upshift paddle was pulled, but car stayed in Neutral
    o Green shift LEDs starts flashing multiple times
    o Actual upshift into first takes into effect much later
    o Green shift LEDs then stop flashing

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    Comparativa "telemétrica" LH vs. VB. Canal "Velocidad":

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Comparativa "telemétrica" LH vs. VB. Canal "Velocidad" y Ganancia/Pérdida:

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Comparativa "telemétrica" LH vs. VB: Canales "Velocidad","% Acelerador", "% Frenos" y Ganancia/Pérdida:

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Las siguientes "comparativas telemétricas" entre LH y MV, en el caso de este último, la telemetría aquí mostrada, se corresponde con su mejor vuelta cronometrada, no con su "fantástica" última vuelta (esa ya caerá ).

    Comparativa "telemétrica LH vs. MV. Canal de "Velocidad":

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Comparativa "telemétrica" LH vs. MV. Canal "Velocidad" y Pérdida/Ganancia:

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Comparativa "telemétrica" LH vs. MV. Canales "Velocidad", "% Acelerador", "% Frenos", Pérdida/Ganancia:

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Vaya cagada de Max ayer, puede valer un mundial, y es una pena porque estaba haciendo un vueltón de otro mundo, si es desde el S1 se le veia desatado. A ver de que es capaz hoy pero lo tiene jodio, es una pena de que nuevo Perez no haya estado ahi para minimizar daños, sin ánimo de desmercerle ni a el ni a su temporada (es uno de mis pilotos favoritos) pero "podria haber hecho mas".

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    Zigua TV: Los Santos Algoritmos Zigüísticos (aka SAZ) ya tienen capturada la última vuelta de MV de ayer en la sesión de Clasificación, en breves en sus pantallas
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Lo prometido es deuda

    Os dejo una comparativa "telemétrica" entre la mejor vuelta de LH en la sesión de Clasificación y la que parecía iba a ser una "supervuelta" de MV, hasta que tocó el muro. Canal "Velocidad"

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    A la anterior "telemetría" se le añade la "Pérdida/Ganancia":

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    ¡Muchísimas gracias, llumia!


    Teniendo en cuenta que la vuelta de Hamilton fue una pasada, comparando la telemetría, la de Verstappen estaba siendo «La Vuelta». Una pena que acabara así a tan poquitos metros de la meta pero, como ha apuntado yorch, salió desatado desde el inicio y lo pagó muy caro.

    Por cierto, este es el análisis del volante en la parte final de su vuelta:



    https://twitter.com/AnnotatedWA/stat...39387092815874

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    LuisFeF1 @LuisFeF1 · 39min

    #TechF1 Ayer durante la clasificación vimos diferente configuración en el ala trasera de los Red Bull:

    Pérez: Flap gurney en todo el borde de fuga del flap superior

    Verstappen: Solo en la zona central

    #F1 #SaudiaArabianGP #redbullracing




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    LuisFeF1 @LuisFeF1 · 38min


    #TechF1 Diferencias también en McLaren con un Ricciardo con ala de menor carga aerodinámica que su compañero Norris

    #F1 #SaudiaArabianGP #McLaren





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    LuisFeF1 @LuisFeF1 · 37min

    #TechF1 En Williams solo Latifi montó la T-Wing de doble plano

    #F1 #SaudiaArabianGP #Williams




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    La reacción de Fernando en el corralito viendo la vuelta de Max comparando su reacción con el momento exacto de la vuelta.




    https://twitter.com/alomgc14/status/1467270881546280964




    Se nota que quería que Max completara esa vuelta.

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    Sería interesante ver la comparativa zigüística de las dos vueltas de Verstappen en Q3 para comprobar si es cierto lo que dicen en este artículo.



    How Verstappen braked earlier but crashed on ‘lap of the year’


    3 hours ago | By Scott Mitchell


    Formula 1 championship leader Max Verstappen was on course to complete the “lap of the year” and earn a commanding pole position for the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix before crashing at the final corner.

    Verstappen said his “extremely disappointing” error was a surprise given he felt he’d braked “at the same point”.

    Analysing Verstappen’s data from the lap he crashed and his previous best, though, reveals he even braked fractionally earlier – roughly six metres.

    The crucial difference was Verstappen had “a little lock-up” that sent him wide and this was because Verstappen’s arrival speed into the braking zone was much quicker than the previous lap.

    Verstappen was travelling just under 10kph faster as he approached the braking zone for the final corner, which is likely why a fractionally earlier braking point still resulted in a lock-up.

    That proved crucial because while Verstappen’s approach speed on his final lap was a good chunk quicker than his previous best, it was actually roughly the same as Hamilton’s.

    But while Hamilton was able to slow down and make the corner, Verstappen had the lock-up and went in slightly deep – possibly a legacy of Hamilton having that approach speed consistently whereas for Verstappen it may have been unusually high and caught him out.

    The reason for Verstappen’s higher approach speed the second time round is unclear but judging by the data it appears it could be that he had the perfect balance of energy deployment to manage the end of the final two ‘straights’.

    He was markedly quicker at the end of the two DRS zones – Turns 19-22 and Turns 25-27 – on his second attempt and a match for Hamilton, who has generally enjoyed a straightline speed advantage this weekend.

    That change can be explained by multiple factors including the complex way the energy recovery system settings are optimised and Verstappen’s higher cornering speeds on his second run.

    He was several tenths up on Hamilton at the time of his mistake after a blistering lap that Red Bull team boss Christian Horner said was poised to be “the lap of the year”, and had been slightly faster through and out of the preceding turns before the last two flat-out sections.

    Verstappen’s commitment through the high-speed corners, where the Red Bull shone, was stunning – he was flat out from Turns 5 to 13, for example, whereas his previous lap he’d needed a confidence lift through 9 and 10, and Hamilton’s pole lap had two more lifts through that sequence.

    He was tempting fate throughout the lap, consistently returning to full throttle quicker than Hamilton and leaving no margin for error.

    That approach was ultimately both the reason for Verstappen’s impending pole and the reason it slipped away.

    It would be harsh to suggest this was Verstappen cracking under the title pressure.

    Instead, it simply reflected his style – Verstappen drove as close to the limit as he could, emboldened by the Red Bull’s performance, and a tiny detail caused him to go over it.

    Hamilton, with a car he was struggling for confidence in, had a more restrained lap and in this instance was rewarded for it.

    After qualifying, the key question became whether Verstappen’s error caused any gearbox damage.

    When he ran deep, Verstappen “still tried to finish the lap” – he got back on the throttle with two hesitations as he scrambled for grip, and then slapped the wall with the right rear.

    Verstappen immediately got off the throttle and stopped the car though, in an attempt not to cause further harm – and it is understood the gearbox was not damaged so he is able to start from third on the grid.


    https://the-race.com/formula-1/how-verstappen-braked-earlier-but-crashed-on-lap-of-the-year/

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    Juegos de neumáticos disponibles para la carrera.




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    Mejores estrategias según Pirelli. Todo apunta a que veremos una carrera a una única parada, aunque los posibles coches de seguridad pueden hacer que alguno cambie de opinión si aparecen en el momento oportuno.




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    Neumáticos con los que saldrán los 10 primeros. Todos con el medio excepto Norris, que saldrá con el blando.




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    Esto que está pasando en la F2, seguro que le gusta a McH.









    No sé si esto ha pasado alguna otra vez o es otro invento del Masi.

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    Jajajajaja, tras terminar las reparaciones en las protecciones aparece un cartelín que pone que en 14 minutos comenzará la carrrea de F2 y justo a continuación otro de «Session aborted» y a continuación arrancan los coches para dar la vuelta de formación... o eso se suponía, porque todos han vuelto al pit lane y han cambiado neumáticos antes de volver a la pista, esta vez sí para ir a la parrilla.

    Menudo despropósito. Como sea esto lo que nos espera en la carrera de F1...

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    Sería interesante ver la comparativa zigüística de las dos vueltas de Verstappen en Q3 para comprobar si es cierto lo que dicen en este artículo.



    How Verstappen braked earlier but crashed on ‘lap of the year’


    3 hours ago | By Scott Mitchell


    Formula 1 championship leader Max Verstappen was on course to complete the “lap of the year” and earn a commanding pole position for the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix before crashing at the final corner.

    Verstappen said his “extremely disappointing” error was a surprise given he felt he’d braked “at the same point”.

    Analysing Verstappen’s data from the lap he crashed and his previous best, though, reveals he even braked fractionally earlier – roughly six metres.

    The crucial difference was Verstappen had “a little lock-up” that sent him wide and this was because Verstappen’s arrival speed into the braking zone was much quicker than the previous lap.

    Verstappen was travelling just under 10kph faster as he approached the braking zone for the final corner, which is likely why a fractionally earlier braking point still resulted in a lock-up.

    That proved crucial because while Verstappen’s approach speed on his final lap was a good chunk quicker than his previous best, it was actually roughly the same as Hamilton’s.

    But while Hamilton was able to slow down and make the corner, Verstappen had the lock-up and went in slightly deep – possibly a legacy of Hamilton having that approach speed consistently whereas for Verstappen it may have been unusually high and caught him out.

    The reason for Verstappen’s higher approach speed the second time round is unclear but judging by the data it appears it could be that he had the perfect balance of energy deployment to manage the end of the final two ‘straights’.

    He was markedly quicker at the end of the two DRS zones – Turns 19-22 and Turns 25-27 – on his second attempt and a match for Hamilton, who has generally enjoyed a straightline speed advantage this weekend.

    That change can be explained by multiple factors including the complex way the energy recovery system settings are optimised and Verstappen’s higher cornering speeds on his second run.

    He was several tenths up on Hamilton at the time of his mistake after a blistering lap that Red Bull team boss Christian Horner said was poised to be “the lap of the year”, and had been slightly faster through and out of the preceding turns before the last two flat-out sections.

    Verstappen’s commitment through the high-speed corners, where the Red Bull shone, was stunning – he was flat out from Turns 5 to 13, for example, whereas his previous lap he’d needed a confidence lift through 9 and 10, and Hamilton’s pole lap had two more lifts through that sequence.

    He was tempting fate throughout the lap, consistently returning to full throttle quicker than Hamilton and leaving no margin for error.

    That approach was ultimately both the reason for Verstappen’s impending pole and the reason it slipped away.

    It would be harsh to suggest this was Verstappen cracking under the title pressure.

    Instead, it simply reflected his style – Verstappen drove as close to the limit as he could, emboldened by the Red Bull’s performance, and a tiny detail caused him to go over it.

    Hamilton, with a car he was struggling for confidence in, had a more restrained lap and in this instance was rewarded for it.

    After qualifying, the key question became whether Verstappen’s error caused any gearbox damage.

    When he ran deep, Verstappen “still tried to finish the lap” – he got back on the throttle with two hesitations as he scrambled for grip, and then slapped the wall with the right rear.

    Verstappen immediately got off the throttle and stopped the car though, in an attempt not to cause further harm – and it is understood the gearbox was not damaged so he is able to start from third on the grid.


    https://the-race.com/formula-1/how-verstappen-braked-earlier-but-crashed-on-lap-of-the-year/

    Menudo Domingo de loc@s. Me van a salir las verdinas por la boca

    Lo pedido:

    La curva verde, corresponde a la mejor vuelta cronometrada de MV y la rosa, a la vuelta que pudo ser y no fue:

    Canal "velocidad":

    Última edición por llumia; 05/12/2021 a las 17:08
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Canal "Velocidad" y "Ganancia/Pérdida":

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Arranca la F2 y bandera roja. Se quedó parado Pourchaire y Enzo Fittipaldi le golpea por detrás.

    Sale la ambulancia a mitad de la pista y se pone a rodar por delante del coche de seguridad y con todos los coches detrás.






    Esta fue la salida: https://twitter.com/DAZN_ES/status/1467511071447695360



    Los pilotos han llegado al pit lane y todos se bajan y se asoman a la línea de salida para ver si sus compañeros están bien. Esperemos que los dos pilotos estén bien.

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