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    GP Nº 13 - ITALIA Grand Prix F1

    FORMULA 1 TEMPORADA 2011 – GP Nº 13

    SANTANDER - ITALIAN GRAND PRIX





    Monza





    HORARIOS:

    Viernes 9 de Julio :

    • Prácticas Libres, Sesión 1 :Horario Local : 10:00 a 11:30 - España :10:00 a 11:30 - GMT : 08:00 a 09:30
    • Prácticas Libres, Sesión 2 : Horario Local :14:00 a 15:30 - España :14:00 a 15:30 - GMT : 12:00 a 13:30


    Sábado 10 de Julio :

    • Prácticas Libres, Sesión 3 : Horario Local : 11:00 a 12:00 - España :11:00 a 12:00 - GMT : 09:00 a 10:00
    • Clasificatorias de Parrilla de Salida : Horario Local :14:00 a 15:00 - España :14:00 a 15:00 - GMT : 12:00 a 13:00


    Domingo 12 de Julio :

    • CARRERA: Horario Local: 14:00 - España: 14:00 - GMT: 12:00














    Datos Básicos de Pista

    • Fecha de creación: 1950
    • Primer Gran Premio de F1: 03/09/1950
    • Grandes Premios organizados: 60
    • Capacidad de espectadores: 115000
    • Longitud oficial: 5.793 metros. / 3,599 millas





    • Longitud oficial:5.793 metros. / 3,599 millas
    • Número de vueltas: 53.
    • Sentido de giro: Derechas (horario).
    • Longitud total de carrera: 307,029 km / 190,788 millas.
    • Longitud rodadura: 5.759 metros.
    • Compensación de linea de salida: 309 m.
    • Curvas oficiales: 11.
    • Curvas reales: 11.
    • Curvas oficiales a derecha: 7.
    • Curvas oficiales a izquierda: 7.
    • Curvas reales a derecha: 4.
    • Curvas reales a izquierda: 4.
    • Cambios de marcha en carrera: 38.
    • Cambios de marcha en calificación: 41.
    • Tiempo con el acelerador pisado: 92,2%.
    • Distancia con el acelerador pisado: 5.396 metros.
    • Tiempo con el acelerador a fondo: 75,4%.
    • Distancia con el acelerador a fondo: 4.728 metros.
    • Tiempo con el freno pisado: 10,7%.
    • Distancia con el freno pisado: 529 metros.
    • Tiempo con el freno a fondo: 3,6%.
    • Distancia con el freno a fondo: 170 metros.
    • Tiempo sin girar el volante: 59,9%
    • Distancia sin girar el volante: 3.850 metros.
    • Tiempo girando el volante a la derecha: 30,6%.
    • Distancia girando el volante a la derecha: 1.552 metros.
    • Tiempo girando el volante a la izquierda: 10,0%.
    • Distancia girando el volante a la izquierda: 357 metros.


    • Velocidad máxima: 341,8 km/h.
    • Velocidad media: 257,5 km/h.
    • Velocidad mínima: 81,5 km/h.
    • Velocidad máxima en recta: 341,8 km/h.
    • Velocidad media en recta: 293,0 km/h.
    • Velocidad mínima en recta: 82,2 km/h.
    • Velocidad máxima en curva: 339,8 km/h.
    • Velocidad media en curva: 221,7 km/h.
    • Velocidad mínima en curva: 81,5 km/h.
    • Consumo por vuelta: 2,62 Kg.
    • Consumo por vuelta: 3,62 l.
    • Penalización por vuelta de combustible: 0,070 s.
    • Demora por cada 10Kg de carga: 0,267 s.
    • Tiempo de entrada y salida de pits (sin repostar): 23,1 s.
    • Distancia desde la salida hasta la primera frenada: 860 m.
    • Tiempo de vuelta de referencia: 1:20,490.





    • Carga aerodinámica: Mínima
    • Dureza / Desgaste de frenos: Medio
    • Agarre del asfalto: Medio
    • Tipo de neumático: Medio
    • Desgaste de neumáticos: Bajo
    • Compuestos de neumáticos suministrados por Pirelli: Blando (Amarillo) y Medio (Blanco)
    [*]Brembo. La frenada más dura de Monza:

    • Ventana Pit Stop a 1 parada : vueltas 17 a 33
    • Ventana Pit Stop a 2 paradas : vueltas 17 a 22 y 33 a 41
    • Ventana Pit Stop a 3 paradas : vueltas 11 a 16 , 26 a 29 y 42 a 46

    Mejor vuelta R.Barrichello - 1'21"046 (Ferrari 2004)
    Mejor pole
    R.Barrichello - 1'20"089 (Ferrari 2004)
    Pole 2010 : F.Alonso - 1'21"962 (Red Bull)
    Podium 2010 :
    1º F.Alonso - 2º J.Button - 3º F.Massa




    Piloto con más Poles: 5 J.M.Fangio / A.Senna
    Escudería con más Poles: 18 Ferrari
    Piloto con más victorias: 5 M.Schumacher
    Escudería con más Victorias:
    17 Ferrari


    Alguersuari nos enseña la pista de Monza en el simulador de Red Bull:



    Llegando al GP de Italia, en Monza, se acude a uno de los circuitos con más historia y ambiente en el calendario de Fórmula Uno.
    El Autodromo Nazionale di Monza está situado en el Parque Real en el corazón de la ciudad italiana del mismo nombre.

    El circuito original fue construido en 1922 e incluyó un óvalo . Aunque esto no ha sido utilizado por los coches de F1 desde 1961, en los últimos años se mantiene alojado como un icónico monumento a las carreras.

    El circuito de 5,793 kilometros, Monza es el más rápido del año con cuatro largas rectas permiten a los coches alcanzar velocidades máximas de 340kph y velocidades de vuelta promedio de 250kph. El énfasis está en la potencia del motor y la eficiencia aerodinámica que requieren que los coches sispongan de un paquete aerodinámico especial de baja carga aerodinámica para minimizar las resistencias aerodinámicas.

    Setup Aerodinámico:
    Los equipos suelen desarrollar una especificación aerodinámica específica para Monza, con el mínimo de empuje necesario, y así minimizar la resistencia en las rectas con el fin de optimizar el tiempo de vuelta.

    Puesto que hay 4 curvas rápidas a derechas y ninguna a izquierdas, la geometría de los alerones, tanto delantero como trasero, es asimétrica para así adecuar la carga de las ruedas en el lado derecho e izquierdo

    La eficacia aerodinámica (generar el máximo agarre con la mínima resistencia) es la clave del éxito en este circuito.

    Frenos:
    Los frenos también se pondrán a prueba rigurosamente, en particular, con la desaceleración agresiva para circular por la lenta chicane de primera velocidad en las curvas uno y dos. Una buena salida de la rápida Curva Parabólica, la última curva de la vuelta, es importante para tener una carrera sin problemas en la recta principal Rettifilio, y una posibilidad de adelantamiento en la frenada de la primera chicane.



    Neumáticos:
    El trazado de Monza implica que los equipos han de correr con muy bajos niveles de carga aerodinámica, lo que naturalmente afecta a los neumáticos. Una mayor confianza en el agarre mecánico es una consideración, y los bajos niveles de carga aerodinámica son también relevantes para la estabilidad en la frenada.
    Antes de las chicanes de Monza son zonas donde hay fuertes frenadas a grandes velocidades, lo que puede causar las problemáticas marcas planas en los neumáticos.

    Los equipos han prestar especial atención a la distribución del peso para ayudar en la frenada. Monza es famoso por sus largas rectas y esto tiene un impacto interesante en el rendimiento de los neumáticos. Pueden servir para enfriar la temperatura global de las gomas, pero también puede poner de relieve si la presión de los neumáticos no son perfectas. Presiones bajas ofrecen mayor resistencia al avance y genera más calor en los neumáticos, y con presiones altas el agarre no es tan bueno en las curvas.

    Monza tiene rectas de muy alta velocidad, por lo que habrá una gran cantidad de fuerzas a través de las ruedas cuando giran a velocidades de hasta 50 vueltas por segundo. Esto significa que el caucho de los neumáticos puede estar muy caliente, incluso con el efecto de enfriamiento del viento en las largas rectas. Al final de la recta de boxes hay una zona de fuertes frenadas, por lo que los pilotos tienen que tener cuidado de no bloquear los frenos aquí.
    Las puestas a punto de baja carga aerodinámica utilizadas en Monza, hacen que el coche sea más proporcionalmente dependiente del agarre mecánico.

    Motor:
    Su lugar en el calendario, inmediatamente después de Spa Francorchamps, le convierten en el único circuito de la temporada que le confiere una calificación máxima en la escala de gravedad del motor.

    La constitución del circuito, de rápidas rectas y chicanes, junto con la demanda de los valores más bajos de carga aerodinámica de la temporada, hace que toda la potencia del motor salga a la palestra. Los pilotos se pasan más de tres cuartas partes de la vuelta a Monza a toda velocidad, lo que representa un total de alrededor de 230 kilometros sobre una distancia de carrera. Se trata de la mayor velocidad media de la temporada y se alcanzan velocidades máximas de más de 340 kmhen los 1,2 kilometros de largo de la recta principal.

    Configuración:
    El Gran Premio de Italia en Monza, ofrece hoy en día quizás la prueba más dura del año. Ninguna carrera es más difícil para el motor o los frenos, y los equipos tienen que preparar un paquete especial para hacer frente al reto único de Monza. Y aunque pueda parecer simple para los pilotos, el circuito sólo delata sus secretos poco a poco, y el desafío de encontrar constantemente el límite en la configuración de baja carga aerodinámica requiere habilidad y delicadeza.

    Fiabilidad:
    Además de el reto que la pesada carga de trabajo Monza impone en el motor, las chicanes lentas plantean también desafíos para la fiabilidad del motor. Los conductores deben usar los bordillos de manera agresiva para llevar una buena velocidad en las curvas, pero hay un riesgo de uso excesivo del limitador cuando los coches están en el aire, y daños en la transmisión cuando las ruedas girando vuelven a contactar con el asfalto.
    Los circuitos auxiliares del motor también deben ser monitorizados para asegurar que pueden resistir las severas exigencias de una vuelta en Monza.

    Notas de Pedro De La Rosa:



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    PALMARÉS
    2010 : F. Alonso (Ferrari)
    2009 : R. Barrichello (Brawn)
    2008 : S. Vettel (Toro Rosso)
    2007 : F. Alonso (McLaren)
    2006 : M. Schumacher (Ferrari)
    2005 : J.P. Montoya (McLaren)
    2004 : R. Barrichello (Ferrari)
    2003 : M. Schumacher (Ferrari)
    2002 : R. Barrichello (Ferrari)
    2001 : J.P. Montoya (Williams)
    2000 : M. Schumacher (Ferrari)
    1999 : H-H. Frentzen (Jordan)
    1998 : M. Schumacher (Ferrari)
    1997 : D. Coulthard (McLaren)
    1996 : M. Schumacher (Ferrari)
    1995 : J. Herbert (Benetton)
    1994 : D. Hill (Williams)
    1993 : D. Hill (Williams)
    1992 : A. Senna (McLaren)
    1991 : N. Mansell (Williams)
    1990 : A. Senna (McLaren)
    1989 : A. Prost (McLaren)
    1988 : G. Berger (Ferrari)
    1987 : N. Piquet (Williams)
    1986 : N. Piquet (Williams)
    1985 : A. Prost (McLaren)
    1984 : N. Lauda (McLaren)
    1983 : N. Piquet (Brabham)
    1982 : R. Arnaux (Renault)
    1981 : A. Prost (Renault)
    1980 : N. Piquet (Brabham)
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    Scuderia Toro Rosso confirms Cepsa sponsorship deal


    Scuderia Toro Rosso has announced a major sponsorship deal with Spanish oil company Cepsa, as AUTOSPORT predicted last week.
    On the back of a developing relationship with Abu Dhabi's Aabar Investments, which has links with Cepsa and other sponsor Swiss bank Falcon Investments that arrived earlier this year, the team is enjoying a lift in its financial situation.
    Cepsa logos will appear on the drivers' overalls, plus the nose, rear wing and rear endplates of the car from this weekend's Italian GP.
    Team principal Franz Tost told AUTOSPORT last week that the improved sponsorship situation at Toro Rosso was good news for its hopes of moving forward.
    "To build up the team, to bring in more people and to increase the performance, you also need a little bit more money," he explained. "We are fortunately in the position that some new sponsors are on board and, along with Red Bull, I am quite happy to have these companies on our side.
    "With a better position in the Constructors' Championship too we will also have more money coming in, but at the same time we will also spend it."

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94285

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    From the director's chair

    Dimitris Papadopoulos
    September 6, 2011


    Charlie Whiting is Formula One's race director © Sutton Images




    There are some remarkable people out there. People that started at the very bottom and climbed to the top. They have stories to tell. Stories that are mostly hidden behind their roles. We know them from their official activities, but rarely wondered or never got the chance to ask them how they made it or what they have to share.
    We know Charlie Whiting as Formula One's permanent race starter, safety delegate and technical delegate. The teams and drivers simply refer to him as "Charlie". I wondered if he would like to chat about things outside his primary role and to answer questions slightly different to the technical and sporting ones he's used to. So I thought I'd take a long shot and text him, even though I was told he's not a 'texting' kind of person. His reply that he would love to chat caught me by wonderful surprise.
    Fast forward to the Hungaroring, I found myself stood outside a door labelled 'FIA Race Director' in the ground floor of the pit complex. As the door opened, Charlie rose from his desk and gave me a warm welcome. He then sat back in his chair and started to answer our questions.

    What kind of a childhood did you have?
    I had great times! I was brought up on a farm and we had a very happy family.

    What did you dream of doing when you were a kid?
    The first time I can remember dreaming about my future was when I was about 12. I wanted to work on cars. That's what I wanted to do and I did it. My elder brother had a garage. After school and on weekends I worked at the garage until midnight. Very hard work.

    How did you first come to work in Formula One?
    I worked with my brother all through until I worked with Mr Ecclestone. From 1977 I worked for him as a junior mechanic. My wildest dream was to be chief mechanic to a World Champion. I looked at people like Jackie Stewart's mechanic [Roger Hill] and I thought: "How incredible that must be". So that's what I wanted to do. And when the story with Brabham stopped I started working for the FIA.

    How was your relationship with Bernie in the Brabham days?
    Very good, I think. He might think differently; I hope not! We had great times, a great team. It was fantastic. We always enjoyed ourselves - Bernie, Gordon Murray - who of course was the star of those days. He positively encouraged people to enjoy themselves and we had a very, very happy team. They were really good times.

    How did you wind up becoming FIA technical delegate in 1988?
    Bernie told us towards the end of the 1987 season that he wasn't going to run Brabham anymore, but said that he would find something else. Some guys stayed on for another project Bernie ran with Alfa Romeo, called ProCar - a silhouette formula that was supposed to be running out of the old Brabham factory. He suggested that I should go to work for FISA as I was familiar with the things teams could to do to cheat and he thought that I was probably a good person to try to catch them! I went to assist Gabriele Cadringher, who was the Chief Secretary in those days. The job became complicated and we needed to build a small team. We needed to employ more people like analysts and software specialists and so on, and the department grew from there.


    Charlie Whiting and Gordon Murray work on Nelson Piquet's Brabham in 1984 © Sutton Images






    It's still a small team you have today, though, given the number of competitors and the level of technical competition. Is it difficult to keep on top of everything?
    Absolutely. There are not many of us. We cannot check everything on every car that goes out to the track. We have to rely on the deterrent of the check that might happen. It's quite a difficult job. You have the combined brain power of probably a thousand engineers working at all the teams and you have to find out about what they might or might not be doing. Sometimes it's quite difficult.Speaking of engineers, what would your advice be to people who want a career in motorsport?
    I don't believe that anyone who has a dream should give up on it. There's always more than one way to go about things. I was quite fortunate because my brother was racing, I had grown up with things like autocross and rallycross. We grew together and then obviously I had my dream. My brother Nick was scaling down his racing at that point so we parted ways.

    Mentioning your brother Nick, 1990 was a tragic year for the Whiting family. Your brother was murdered. How did this change your life?
    On a personal basis, obviously it affected the family. On a professional basis I don't think it affected my work. Life was quite difficult for a while but we had to get on with it. Certainly Nick would have wanted me to get on with it.

    Since 1997 you have been the FIA's Race Director and Safety Delegate. Does that responsibility put a lot of pressure on your shoulders?
    More so now than ever before. That side of my job does become harder in some respects because every incident is examined in more detail. But I believe that we are ahead of the game in terms of the technology we have available to us in order to analyze incidents and detect any wrongdoing on the track. Every race brings its pressures. For two hours I'm under pressure and you never know what's going to happen. We always come across incidents that we have never come across before and this is one of the best things about the job - the unpredictability.

    People get to see you on TV as the man pressing the button to switch off the start lights. Do you still get excited pressing that button?
    I must admit that I am still excited about it. There's high-tension because you have to make a split second decision on whether we have to abort the race or not. It's a thrilling part of the job. I pay close attention to where the cars are, if everything is in place, if there are any drivers in trouble - and I have to keep my concentration.

    How does this starting procedure work? Is there any random algorithm?
    When I start the sequence, the red lights go on automatically. When all the five lights are on I decide when they are switched off. I do this manually. No, there is no algorithm for the five lights to go off.



    Charlie Whiting decides when and if the safety car is deployed © Sutton Images






    Do you ever have any second thoughts on the decisions that were taken or not taken?
    Every year I write a report on every circuit. Generally speaking, there are always things that can be improved. We learn things about the track, the organization and about ourselves. We are always trying to improve and we ask the tracks to make improvements that are not too demanding; but there are often things that we believe should be done for next year.

    Do you like the fact that everyone calls you by your first name?

    I think in F1 everyone is called by their first name. It's always been like that. I don't know what to say really. For example 'Bernie' is 'Bernie'. Only people who don't know him and who fear him call him Mr Ecclestone. I think that names like 'Herbie' and 'Bernie' are names that everyone knows. I'm sure this is not unique to motor racing.

    From 1988 onwards you attended all the drivers' briefings. Do you see any difference between the drivers of 20 years ago and today? Are drivers more serious about safety and taking orders from the FIA?
    Drivers are far more responsible. They are concerned about matters of safety. They know much more about safety, but that's what the world is like now. Look at road cars. Things we did back in the late 80's aren't done now. I think they are very responsible and they are all trying to give us input to make cars safer, driving safer and tracks safer. We do have regular meetings with the GPDA. We can't do everything they want, but we always endeavour to take their views into account. Going back to the drivers from the early years, my recollection is that it was more like an opportunity to give the drivers instructions. Nowadays, it's more like a meeting, a discussion, in order to share views. I believe that it has worked. It's more informal and we seldom have any stand-up shouting matches, which used to happen with one of our previous presidents! Sometimes the race director would start shouting at drivers, but that doesn't happen anymore.

    How do you like to spend your time off?
    I don't have much free time.

    Do teams call you at all hours?
    Continually!

    Has it crossed your mind to switch off your mobile?
    Hmmm … yes, I do switch it off sometimes at night! On a serious note, everyone needs to take a break every now and then. I take weekends off when I can. But when I'm trying to keep up with all of the work, it's not simple to have a family life. I've got a family, I have a wife and two young children and I try to spend as much time with them as I can. But it is quite difficult sometimes.

    Are you able to forget about the pressure of work when you're home?
    I think so. I think I'm okay when I get home. Obviously, when I'm at home I check my emails at night before I go to bed to make sure that nothing terrible is happening somewhere.

    So you are not a workaholic?
    Most people think I am, but I don't. I just enjoy my work. I try very studiously to make sure that I do spend time with my family. If I have a weekend off, I have a weekend off. But that doesn't mean that I don't turn on my computer. I seldom have my phone on at weekends; that's too much, but if someone wants to contact me urgently they know that I always look at my emails.


    Charlie Whiting with his old boss Bernie Ecclestone © Sutton Images







    Do you have any thoughts about allowing bright ideas that were subsequently identified as illegal?
    If you look at the double diffuser, that was a really clever idea to overcome a change of rules that prevented teams from having them. When the rules were changed, everyone thought that was impossible. Three teams independently found a way around that. Whilst it was a loophole, it was definitely legal. It was challenged by the teams that hadn't thought of it, but I thought it was a very clever thing. Going on to the blown diffusers, we have always known that the exhaust plume will affect the aerodynamics in some way. Provided that we were always satisfied that any aerodynamic effect was secondary to the main purpose of the exhausts, we were happy. Once teams started moving the exhaust down to the area in front of the rear wheels, it still didn't bother us too much because we had no idea what the end result was going to be. The end result was that they used the engine for aerodynamic reasons by mapping engines purely for aero. Then it had to stop because it was quite evident that the exhaust was being used to influence the aero. In fact, at times it was its primary purpose and that's where the discussion became difficult. It's not helpful to go into the detail of it, but we have it sorted out for next year.

    People usually ask drivers about their retirement. When will it be time for Charlie to call it a day?

    Either when I'm told to, or when I think I've outlived my usefulness! I'm 58 now and depending on everything I would probably like to take it a little bit easier in my middle-to-late 60s, given the choice.

    Do you think you need a thick skin for this job?
    Yeah!

    Are you often under pressure from the teams to intervene, change the rules, or stop races?
    Yeah yeah. In Korea, when it was getting dark, one of the teams wanted the race stopped because it was getting dark. It was really because their driver had a dark visor! It wasn't too bad and he was the only one complaining. But he was leading and it was in his interest. We have to be able to see through this - the biased questions being asked for spurious reasons.

    Any funny things that never became public and you could share with us? You attended all the drivers' briefings from 1988 onwards…
    I remember once in Spain, in the days when we used to have the opportunity to have an extra practice session on Sundays, when it was wet and all other sessions had been dry. So one driver asked what we would do. And I said: "If we need to do this, we would do it between 11 and 11.15 etc etc" and another driver raised his hand and said "What's going to happen if it rains this morning?" And I said "Damon" - oops, I gave it away - "Damon you were not listening were you?" and all the other drivers started to laugh. It was quite amusing. Sometimes we have a few laughs!

    Has your loyalty to Bernie and the FIA ever been tested?
    Some people felt that I might come under pressure from Bernie, for example, to stop a race or to pull out a safety car because the race was boring. First of all, that has never happened and I'm absolutely confident it never would, because Bernie doesn't do that. But that was the perception, that I was susceptible to that kind of pressure. But I can say hand on heart that has never happened and never will. A few times, people have said "why did you send out the Safety Car out" and so on. I'm not in the habit of justifying reasons to put out a safety car because I don't believe that we have to. It should be fairly obvious. People occasionally have different opinions. I cannot keep everyone happy all the time. I'm pretty happy with most of the decisions we have made. Of course, with the benefit of hindsight, there are a few that could have been done better but everyone must have felt that from time to time.

    © ESPN EMEA Ltd.



    http://en.espnf1.com/fia/motorsport/story/58116.html
    "El pie tiene miedo y vela por la seguridad del piloto" . Marc Gené. Spa 2012

    "Respeto es la posibilidad de aceptar tus defectos y tus virtudes sin poner en tela de juicio lo que ves en los demás, porque jamás obtendrás de otros lo que no eres capaz de darte tú mismo, ya que en la medida que lo logres serás capaz de otorgarlo a los demás..."


    " El sabio escucha y evita el insulto; el ignorante, en cambio, oye y responde"

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    Scuderia Toro Rosso confirms Cepsa sponsorship deal


    Scuderia Toro Rosso has announced a major sponsorship deal with Spanish oil company Cepsa, as AUTOSPORT predicted last week.
    On the back of a developing relationship with Abu Dhabi's Aabar Investments, which has links with Cepsa and other sponsor Swiss bank Falcon Investments that arrived earlier this year, the team is enjoying a lift in its financial situation.
    Cepsa logos will appear on the drivers' overalls, plus the nose, rear wing and rear endplates of the car from this weekend's Italian GP.
    Team principal Franz Tost told AUTOSPORT last week that the improved sponsorship situation at Toro Rosso was good news for its hopes of moving forward.
    "To build up the team, to bring in more people and to increase the performance, you also need a little bit more money," he explained. "We are fortunately in the position that some new sponsors are on board and, along with Red Bull, I am quite happy to have these companies on our side.
    "With a better position in the Constructors' Championship too we will also have more money coming in, but at the same time we will also spend it."

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/94285
    Joder con la Biblia del deporte del motor
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    History Of The Autodromo Nazionale Monza



    The construction of the Monza Autodrome was decided in January 1922 by the Milan Automobile Club in order to celebrate the 25th anniversary of the Club’s founding which was born in 1897 in an embryonic form (in fact it became effective in 1903). The work was supported by the president of the Milan Automobile Club, senator Silvio Crespi, and its director, Mr. Arturo Mercanti, who gave the project to Mr. Alfredo Rossetti, the architect. Works began on May 15th 1922 and were completed in the record time of 110 days: 3,500 workers were employed for the contruction of the autodrome together with 200 waggons, 30 lorries and a narrow-gauge railway 5 kilometers (3.1 miles) long.

    In 1928, the most serious Italian racing accident to date ended in the death of driver Emilio Materassi and 27 spectators at that year’s Grand Prix. Until 1932, further Grand Prix races were confined to the high-speed loop. The 1933 race was marked by the deaths of three drivers and the Grand Prix layout was changed with two chicanes added and the longer straights removed.


    There was major rebuilding in 1938–39, constructing new stands and entrances, resurfacing the track, moving portions of the track and adding two new bends. The resulting layout gave a Grand Prix lap of 6.3 km (3.9 mi), in use until 1954. Because of the war, racing at the track was suspended until 1948 and much of the circuit degraded due to lack of attention. It was renovated over two months and held a Grand Prix on 17 October 1948.

    High speed oval


    In 1955 work began to entirely revamp the circuit, resulting in a 5.75 km (3.57 mi) course and a new 4.25 km (2.64 mi) high-speed oval with banked sopraelevata curves. The two circuits could be combined to create a 10 km long circuit, with cars running parallel on the main straight. The infrastructure was also improved. The Automobile Club of Italy held 500-mile (800 km) Race of Two Worlds exhibition competitions on the oval in 1957 and 1958, with three 63 lap heat races each year, races which colloquially became known as the Monzanapolis series. The club’s initial intention had been to pit United States Auto Club Championship Cars against European Formula One and sports cars. However, concerns were raised among the European drivers that flat-out racing on the banking would be too dangerous, so ultimately only Ecurie Ecosse and Maserati represented European racing at the first running. The American teams had brought special Firestone tyres with them, reinforced to withstand high-speed running on the bumpy Monza surface, but the Maseratis’ steering was badly affected by the larger-than-usual tyre size and so the Modena team withdrew. Ecurie Ecosse’s three Jaguar D-type sports cars used their Le Mans-specification tyres with no ill-effects, but were completely out paced. Two heats in 1957 were won by Jimmy Bryan in his Kuzma-Offenhauser Dean Van Lines Special, and the last by Troy Ruttman in the Watson-Offy John Zink Special. In 1958, works Jaguar, Ferrari and Maserati teams appeared alongside the Indy roadsters, but once again the USA cars dominated and Jim Rathmann swept all three races.

    Grand Prix returned to this high speed track in 1955, 1956, 1960 and 1961. This last race had another serious accident, with Wolfgang von Trips and fourteen spectators dying near the Parabolica. Despite the fact that the bankings were not involved in that accident, the F1 never raced on the oval again (except in the film Grand Prix made in 1966). New safety walls, rails and fences were quickly added and the refuelling area was moved further from the track. Run-off areas were added to the curves in 1965 after a fatality in the 1000km Monza race, the track layout was not changed until Grand Prix returned in 1966 with new chicanes at the banked curves. The 1000km Monza staged the last event on the banking in 1969. While the banking at the AVUS in Berlin was already destroyed in 1967, the Pista di Alta Velocità is still there, but in a very bad shape.

    Circut changes

    Both car and Grand Prix motorcycle racing were regular attractions at Monza from 1966, but with increasing speeds the track was “slowed” in 1972 with two more chicanes. Grand Prix motorcycles continued to use the un-slowed road track until two races resulted in five deaths in 1973, including Renzo Pasolini and Jarno Saarinen. Motorcycle racing did not return to Monza until 1981. The 1972 chicanes were soon seen to be ineffective at slowing cars and one was remade in 1974, the other in 1976, and a third also added in 1976, with extended run-off areas. The Grand Prix lap was now 5.8 km long.

    With technology still improving vehicle speeds the track was again changed in 1979, with added kerbs, run-off areas extended and tyre-barriers improved, the infrastructure was also upgraded. These changes encouraged world championship motorcycling to return in 1981, but further safety work was undertaken through the 1980s. Also in the 1980s the podium, paddock and pits complex, stands, and campsite were either rebuilt or improved.


    In the safety conscious years following the death of Ayrton Senna in 1994 (albeit at a different track), the three main long curves were “squeezed” in order to install larger gravel traps, shortening the lap to 5.77 km (3.59 mi). In 1997 the stands were reworked to expand capacity to 115,000.

    In 2000 the chicane on the main straight was altered, changing from a double left-right chicane to a single right-left chicane, in an attempt to reduce the frequent accidents at the starts due to the conformation of the braking area, although it is still deemed unsafe in terms of motorcycle racing. The second chicane was also reprofiled. In the Formula 1 Grand Prix of the same year, the first to use these new chicanes, a marshal, Paolo Ghislimberti, was killed by flying debris after a big pileup in the second chicane.
    In 2007, the run off area at the second chicane was changed from gravel to asphalt.

    Full article at - Il Circolo Europa – London

    Circuit type Race
    Capacity 113,860
    First Race Held 1922
    Time zone GMT +1
    Designer Alfredo Rosselli
    Circuit length 5.793 km (3.600 mi)
    Race length 306.720 km (190.596 mi)
    Number of laps 53
    Circuit Turns 11
    Circuit Direction Clockwise
    Number of races held 80
    Lap record 1:21.046 (Rubens Barrichello, 2004)
    "El pie tiene miedo y vela por la seguridad del piloto" . Marc Gené. Spa 2012

    "Respeto es la posibilidad de aceptar tus defectos y tus virtudes sin poner en tela de juicio lo que ves en los demás, porque jamás obtendrás de otros lo que no eres capaz de darte tú mismo, ya que en la medida que lo logres serás capaz de otorgarlo a los demás..."


    " El sabio escucha y evita el insulto; el ignorante, en cambio, oye y responde"

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    Joder con la Biblia del deporte del motor
    as AUTOSPORT predicted last week... hasta que les salga de improviso el [ C.Mikelinho Mode On] ... o [mode MARCA On]

    Es lo que tiene Murphy, que no avisa...
    Buscando la imperfección perfecta...

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    Paquete de actualización:

    F150:

    - Alerón delantero.
    - Alerón trasero.
    - Deflectores.
    - Posibles cambios en el fondo plano.
    - Nuevo sistema de frenado (A probar en FP1).
    - La "publicación", tiene la duda de si usarán la suspensión trasera "vieja" o la "nueva".

    http://www.auto.it/autosprint/formula_1/2011/09/05-9169/Ferrari+prepara+Monza
    Última edición por llumia; 07/09/2011 a las 15:02
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    A ver si la suspensión trasera, pongan la que pongan, es capaz de hacer funcionar a los neumáticos "medios". En Canadá, ya tuvieron problemas para calentar incluso los "full-wet". En Spa ya lo vimos. Son dos circuitos de media/baja "downforce". En Monza, los niveles de DF son aún más bajos. Quizás los "bajos" niveles de DF, también tengan algo que decir en los problemas de calentamiento de los neumáticos "más" duros.
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Esperemos que sí, porque al coche lo que más le falla es eso socia. Crucemos los dedos
    "El pie tiene miedo y vela por la seguridad del piloto" . Marc Gené. Spa 2012

    "Respeto es la posibilidad de aceptar tus defectos y tus virtudes sin poner en tela de juicio lo que ves en los demás, porque jamás obtendrás de otros lo que no eres capaz de darte tú mismo, ya que en la medida que lo logres serás capaz de otorgarlo a los demás..."


    " El sabio escucha y evita el insulto; el ignorante, en cambio, oye y responde"

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    Lo que no entiendo es porqué volvieron a la pesima suspension trasera primaria en vez de usar la nueva "pack fry"
    "Cuando se apagan las luces, esta gente civilizada se comen unos a otros. Verás, yo no soy un monstruo, solo voy un poco por delante de ellos"

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    Interesante pregunta, koldo.

    Evidentemente, alguna razón de peso tendrían.

    Estaba pensando que en Silverstone, en las zonas de curvas de alta velocidad el F150 parecía que daba la talla, sin embargo, en las curvas de baja velocidad, eran superados por Red Bull o McLaren. ¿Podría ser que esa suspensión trasera, comprometiera de "alguna forma" la "performance" del auto en curva lenta?
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    ¿Ese 88% de probabilidad de lluvia para el domingo en Monza es de coña no?

    http://www.eltiempo.es/monza.html?v=detallada
    Entra a mi flickr

    "Algunos hombres ven las cosas que existen y se preguntan por qué?. Yo sueño cosas que nunca existieron y me pregunto por qué no?."
    "Lo que algunos llaman imposible, son solo cosas que no han visto antes"
    "Llevarse bien con la gente es una estrategia ganadora"

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    Interesante pregunta, koldo.

    Evidentemente, alguna razón de peso tendrían.

    Estaba pensando que en Silverstone, en las zonas de curvas de alta velocidad el F150 parecía que daba la talla, sin embargo, en las curvas de baja velocidad, eran superados por Red Bull o McLaren. ¿Podría ser que esa suspensión trasera, comprometiera de "alguna forma" la "performance" del auto en curva lenta?
    Me inclino más a pensar que la nueva geometría no era compatible con una suspensión tan blanda como se necesita en Spa.

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    ¿Ese 88% de probabilidad de lluvia para el domingo en Monza es de coña no?

    http://www.eltiempo.es/monza.html?v=detallada
    Sueño dorado de Ecclestone, ha organizado perfectamente el calendario para conseguir carreras con clima cambiante.

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    Sueño dorado de Ecclestone, ha organizado perfectamente el calendario para conseguir carreras con clima cambiante.
    De eso no tengo dudas, pero antes no tenia tan buena suerte.
    Entra a mi flickr

    "Algunos hombres ven las cosas que existen y se preguntan por qué?. Yo sueño cosas que nunca existieron y me pregunto por qué no?."
    "Lo que algunos llaman imposible, son solo cosas que no han visto antes"
    "Llevarse bien con la gente es una estrategia ganadora"

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    De eso no tengo dudas, pero antes no tenia tan buena suerte.
    Está más que claro que usa de estas:


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    Está más que claro que usa de estas:
    Explicate, que no se que hace eso.
    Entra a mi flickr

    "Algunos hombres ven las cosas que existen y se preguntan por qué?. Yo sueño cosas que nunca existieron y me pregunto por qué no?."
    "Lo que algunos llaman imposible, son solo cosas que no han visto antes"
    "Llevarse bien con la gente es una estrategia ganadora"

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    Explicate, que no se que hace eso.
    Busca dispositivo HAARP en Google. Es complejo y se le acusa hasta de "provocar" los terremotos más gordos (con esto ya te ha tenido que entrar la curiosidad :P)

  20. #20
    A mí sí que me ha entrado , voy a buscar que yo no sabía que existían esas cosas


    EDITO: ya lo he buscado, madre mía!!! los de los de las teorías conspiranoicas deben estar encantados con la existencia de este aparato , la verdad es que como haga todas esas cosas que dicen menuda arma han inventado!!
    "El pie tiene miedo y vela por la seguridad del piloto" . Marc Gené. Spa 2012

    "Respeto es la posibilidad de aceptar tus defectos y tus virtudes sin poner en tela de juicio lo que ves en los demás, porque jamás obtendrás de otros lo que no eres capaz de darte tú mismo, ya que en la medida que lo logres serás capaz de otorgarlo a los demás..."


    " El sabio escucha y evita el insulto; el ignorante, en cambio, oye y responde"

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    Curioso aparatejo... Y mas curioso aun lo que hay montado sobre el. Que de paranoias...
    Entra a mi flickr

    "Algunos hombres ven las cosas que existen y se preguntan por qué?. Yo sueño cosas que nunca existieron y me pregunto por qué no?."
    "Lo que algunos llaman imposible, son solo cosas que no han visto antes"
    "Llevarse bien con la gente es una estrategia ganadora"

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    Cool

    Ecclestone hará el suyo para controlar el clima durante las carreras

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    Hay alguna foto ya de los Toro Rosso con la publi de Cepsa??
    "F1 has the right technology but the wrong image, while ironically Formula E is the opposite." - Joe Saward

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    Ayer, en el encuentro con los fans, habiá un representante de Toro Rosso, y en su camisa aparecía el logo de Cepsa. En lo que atañe al coche, ayer también, el diario Ass, mostró un boceto, al que según ellos habían tenido acceso.
    1315422818.jpg
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    Sobre estas fechas, la FIA, inspecciona los motores de los autos de los equipos, para asegurarse que cumplen con el "congelamiento". Lo han hecho con unos del os motores del coche de FA y está Ok. Lo que sorprende es lo que cuenta J. Noble, sobre el uso de ese motor, a lo mejor yo lo entendí mal:

    NobleF1 Jon Noble

    The FIA has begun its annual checking of engine conformity. Fernando Alonso's power-unit given okay - and interesting details on usage

    Alonso engine used: Malaysia (P3, Q, race), China (P3, Q, race), Monaco (P3, Q, race), plus P1 + P2 in Europe, GB and Germany
    Última edición por llumia; 08/09/2011 a las 12:19
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    ¿Es el mismo o son varios usados en esos eventos? porque si es el mismo sí que dura, sí...
    "El pie tiene miedo y vela por la seguridad del piloto" . Marc Gené. Spa 2012

    "Respeto es la posibilidad de aceptar tus defectos y tus virtudes sin poner en tela de juicio lo que ves en los demás, porque jamás obtendrás de otros lo que no eres capaz de darte tú mismo, ya que en la medida que lo logres serás capaz de otorgarlo a los demás..."


    " El sabio escucha y evita el insulto; el ignorante, en cambio, oye y responde"

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    ¿Es el mismo o son varios usados en esos eventos? porque si es el mismo sí que dura, sí...
    Ese es el motor nº 2, socia.
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    ¿Es el mismo o son varios usados en esos eventos? porque si es el mismo sí que dura, sí...
    Piensalo de esta otra forma, dura 3 fines de semanas completos.

    Solo que para no arriesgarse y que lo ultimo que haga sea una carrera, le quitan los p1 y p2 y se lo hacen cuando ya haya disputado sus 3 carreras.
    Entra a mi flickr

    "Algunos hombres ven las cosas que existen y se preguntan por qué?. Yo sueño cosas que nunca existieron y me pregunto por qué no?."
    "Lo que algunos llaman imposible, son solo cosas que no han visto antes"
    "Llevarse bien con la gente es una estrategia ganadora"

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    La F150, utilizará la suspensión trasera empleada en Spa.(Piola/Gazzetta). Bonita entrevista a FA, también.

    El "quiosquero" me acaba de "subir" la Gazzetta.

    http://www.filesonic.com/file/189691...a_20110908.pdf
    Última edición por llumia; 08/09/2011 a las 13:40
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Pues no se... ... pero no coincide con lo que por internet pulula, aunque las fuentes puedan no ser fiables.

    Aún así......Tampoco me parece muy extraordinario , son 3 carreras y 3 entrenos en agua...... para qué usar otro motor mejor en agua???
    Buscando la imperfección perfecta...

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    No había caído en el detalle del agua McH, gracias
    "El pie tiene miedo y vela por la seguridad del piloto" . Marc Gené. Spa 2012

    "Respeto es la posibilidad de aceptar tus defectos y tus virtudes sin poner en tela de juicio lo que ves en los demás, porque jamás obtendrás de otros lo que no eres capaz de darte tú mismo, ya que en la medida que lo logres serás capaz de otorgarlo a los demás..."


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