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    Postureo para salvar la cara. Menudos sinvergüenzas.
    Exacto. Se puede escribir con mayúsculas pero no más claro.

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    ... Pues no lo veo del todo bien ...
    Que lo retiren por un quinquenio...... pase, pero ¿porqué no se puede usar más???

    Por la misma regla de tres, tendrían que haber retirado el 2 de Senna o el 32 de Ratzemberger ...

    Me parece que se pasan un pelín de ... ...
    O el #27 de Villeneuve.

    Además, si no recuerdo mal, ese no fue el primer número de la lista que tuvo que hacer cuando la FIA les obligó a elegir número. Creo que su primera opción era precisamente el #27, que fue a parar a Hulkenberg.

    Como ha dicho llumia, postureo puro.

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    Es que,,,... no "mesalía el simónimo"
    Buscando la imperfección perfecta...

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    Jornadas de pruebas para la próxima temporada:

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120046
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Ya disía yo... ... que me faltaba algo... ... "duro de digerir"

    Buscando la imperfección perfecta...

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    Posibles dimensiones del auto de F1 para el 2017 (AMuS):

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/b...7-9689160.html
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    2 pilotos confirmados para la temporada que viene. Equipo Sauber: M. Ericsson, F. Nasr.

    http://www.sauberf1team.com/en/seaso...d-felipe-nasr/
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Muy interesante, E. Boullier ha sido entrevistado en la revista Autosport (versión pago), donde ha comentado cosas interesantes. Han puesto un extracto de la misma en el foro de Autosport:

    Some extract from EC interview with Autosport +.

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    -The power unit is not yet mature enough in terms of technology, so definitely we are behind Ferrari and Mercedes in power terms. But still, what Honda have achieved in only two years is very impressive as we are not far from Renault.
    In terms of chassis, we have a good chassis, the car is good, it's good to drive, the drivers love it. It’s even very good in slow corners but it still needs some new development.
    It's a new aero concept, a new philosophy, and we've spent the first three months of the season focusing more on R&D. We have brought upgrades to every race, but we didn't bring the 'big one' because we decided to focus more time in the factory on CFD and the windtunnel, to fine-tune what we are doing. Between now and the next few races you'll see a lot of changes, so the performance should grow massively.

    -Who knows, in Singapore an engineer might wake up with the magic solution to find one second of performance, then we can perhaps be on the podium and win races. We do more than our best and everyone is 100 per cent working flat-out, so let's see what happens by the summer shutdown.

    http://forums.autosport.com/topic/19...5#entry7248237
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    También importante, el punto de vista del fabricante japonés Honda. Se opondrían a un "capado" de la potencia de los motores:

    http://forums.autosport.com/topic/19...5#entry7248237
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Posibles dimensiones del auto de F1 para el 2017 (AMuS):

    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/b...7-9689160.html


    Alberto Rodríguez ‏@Albrodpul 22 h

    Según AMuS/Piola, los coches de F1 2017 tendrán alas y ruedas más anchas, con beam wing (1/2) #F1












    Alberto Rodríguez ‏@Albrodpul 22 h

    (2/2) Nuevos ángulos en los pontones con nuevos deflectores, suelo y difusor más grande y alto. #F1








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    Según C. Horner, Renault Sport F1, no introduciría sus Unidades Motrices "evo" antes del GP de Rusia:

    http://uk.motorsport.com/f1/news/ren...-to-russian-gp
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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Vaya.


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    Former @McLaren doctor Aki Hintsa is battling a malignant tumour in his upper abdomen. Thoughts and prayers are with him and his family.



    Este fue quien trató a Kimi en Singapur cuando estaba en Lotus, ¿verdad?

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    El homenaje de la BBC a Jules Bianchi.



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    El Autosport de la semana pasada.





    Enlace de descarga: https://mega.co.nz/#!y98WXYxA!nmycpG...gGflA9SvfDxdeI

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    Y el de esta semana.





    Enlace de descarga: https://mega.co.nz/#!69cSgaCB!-acfA6...1cdKeOw7GGGtsQ

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    Una entrevista a Kimi (siento que esté en inglés).


    Kimi Raikkonen interview: Leave him alone, he knows what he is doing




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    Laurence Edmondson, F1 Editor

    Kimi Raikkonen is a man under pressure, but not that you'd notice talking to him. Speaking in the privacy of Shell's trackside laboratory at the Austrian Grand Prix, ESPN sat down briefly with the 2007 world champion to discuss both F1's future and his own.


    Kimi, you've driven V10 F1 cars, V8s and now these V6 turbos. Which of those was the most fun and why did it appeal to you?


    Obviously the cars are a bit slower now and as a driver you always want to go faster and obviously in the past the cars were faster, the tyres were better, softer ... they were different, but they were faster. Obviously we changed tyres [when Pirelli arrived in 2011], but I think the old tyres were more fun to drive because you could push all the time, but now you have to save fuel, save tyres, save this, save that. It feels much more strict now, it's still on the edge at times, but it's not pure pushing on the limits.

    So it's not like it used to be, the grip is less, you cannot attack certain corners, so I prefer the cars from the early 2000s to late 2000s. They were probably the nicest cars. The whole package and the rules dictate a lot what happens, so the rule changes have been the biggest hit that has been taken.


    But does F1 need to make more rule changes to get back to where it was in the 2000s?


    The rules themselves have changed a lot [since the 2000s] and they have tried to make it more of a show and more entertaining, but let's be honest, we also got a lot of overtaking done in those years without any devices. It was more of a show in some respects, because there were more faster cars and obviously the rules have changed, but they need to do something to bring it back to what is really F1. It's supposed to be the fastest thing on a race circuit and when you ask people now they probably don't think it.


    Is it not also a problem for the spectacle that one team is running away with it all the time?


    But that happens - not always, but often. When I started it was Ferrari all the time, then it was the Red Bulls and now it is Mercedes. One team gets things perfectly fine then obviously the gap is much bigger and then when they keep making rule changes there is always a bigger chance that one team gets it right and other teams have to start to catch up.

    If you keep the rules for many years then at some point it will close up. You will never avoid a dominant team with the rules, one team will always win. People complain when it's not them, but then in one year or two years it might have changed.




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    Ferrari has made progress towards closing the gap to Mercedes this year, how confident are you that you will be part of that progress going forward into next year?


    You have to ask the team, it's not really in my hands. Obviously they want more all the time and it hasn't been an ideal start to the year, but we make progress all the time. As a team we have made a big, big step from where we were last year to where we are now. I'm sure we have made a bigger step than all the other teams, but obviously it is still not enough to be where we want to be, but it's not easy and we need time.

    We keep going in the right direction and the people in the team are obviously still not enjoying to finish third and second, we want to be consistently able to win races at every race. But as long as we continue to do the same thing and go in the same direction, I'm sure we will get there. But we cannot make miracles in the next few months.


    Ferrari boss Maurizio Arrivabene says all he needs is "good performances" from you in order to be persuaded to keep you next year, so what do you need to do to meet his expectations?

    I'll do my best and if it's not enough then it's not enough. We are not far away from where we can be maximum happy with where we finish, but obviously that is still not enough for us.

    We want to win races, but unfortunately we are not exactly in that position even if we have a straightforward race. Obviously we will just keep working. I'm not worried about next year too much, if it happens it happens and if not then you can say that I'm happy and the team is going the right way and everybody is enjoying much more. But still there is a lot of work to be done to be 100% happy as a team and for me as well. Time will tell.

    http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/...ne-knows-doing

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    Muchas gracias, Govy
    Última edición por llumia; 26/07/2015 a las 00:19
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Interesante:

    José Mª Cimadevilla ‏@Noisegun 3h3 hours ago
    Los 40 pilotos con más puntos de la historia en los sistemas de puntuación de 2003-2009, 2010-2015 (sin 2014) y 2014:


    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    José Mª Cimadevilla ‏@Noisegun 3h3 hours ago
    Los 40 pilotos con más puntos de la historia en los sistemas de puntuación de: 1950-1959, 1960, 1961-1990 y 1991-2002



    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Red Bull Racing está tanteando la posibilidad de hacerse con motores Mercedes después que la Scuderia Ferrari les ofreciera Unidades Motrices pero las correspondientes al año anterior (AMuS):

    Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener 1h1 hour ago Red Bull tries to get Mercedes V6 for 2016 as Ferrari only offers 1 year old engine specs.


    Si dejan a Renault Sport como su motorista, el equipo Toro Rosso podría ser equipado con motores Honda y si Red Bull, no encuentra quien le suministre Unidades Motrices, dejaría el campeonato:

    Tobias Grüner F1 ‏@tgruener 1h1 hour ago
    In case of Renault split Toro Rosso could end up with Honda engines. Red Bull threatens to quit #F1 if other manufacturers refuse to supply.


    http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/f...s-9855016.html
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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Un forero del foro de Autosport, ha llevado a cabo un intercambio epistolar con M. Hughes, donde trataron el "posible" déficit de los autos del resto de equipos respecto a los del equipo Mercedes. Desconocemos lo que se aproximan o se alejan de la realidad, pero por lo menos por tener una referencia y algo en lo que pensar

    Post Nº 1:

    Hi Alonsofan007,

    Re your comment 'unless i see it on the track, those deficit calculations to determine chassis rank by benson or hughes etc are utter non-sense.'

    So aggressive! Anyway, quite happy to explain how they are derived. The teams measure each others' engine power from sonic readings. They know to within a very high degree of accuracy what horsepower they all have. They also know with a good level of accuracy exactly how much lap time around any given circuit the horsepower is worth (obviously it's worth more around Monza than Monaco, for example). So that makes it quite a simple task of maths to work out what the remaining deficit (if any) is. That tells you with a fair degree of certainty how far off the chassis is. That tends to be simplistic however - because a lack of power usually also means the car cannot run as much wing as it would be able to if it had more power, so tending to exaggerate the deficit. But using this method, the general consensus from teams in the paddock is that the Mercedes is the best chassis but that both the Red Bull and the McLaren are better than Ferrari and Williams. You mention Red Bull showing more convincingly than McLaren the quality of their car. But the Red Bull is only around 50bhp down on the Mercedes whereas the McLaren is around 130bhp down. That power difference (between Renault and Honda) is worth around 0.9s of lap time around an average length track.

    Call it BS if you wish, it's simply an order of magnitude calculation.

    Best wishes

    Mark Hughes

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    It shouldn't matter if I follow thread or not, really. But anyway, no problem. I'm not offended.

    Red Bull has proved a lot since Silverstone. You can read all about why in my Hungary GP report here:

    At Hungaroring horsepower not worth as much lap time as many other tracks. Hence why Red Bull as quick as Ferrari despite having 30bhp less. At Spa and Monza expect Ferrari and Williams to both be quicker as the horsepower counts for a lot more lap time at those tracks.

    The McLaren aero is developing at about the same rate as that of Mercedes - as the percentage gap since Melbourne to now remains about the same. Merc say its car is now around 0.6-0.7s faster than it was at Melbourne. McLaren say their car is about 0.7s faster. So the gap remains much the same. Since its recent updates the Red Bull is probably more like 0.75-0.8s faster than in Melbourne.

    Average track 10bhp worth about 0.13s per lap.
    Renault engine 50bhp less than Mercedes = 5 x 0.13 = 0.65s. So 0.65s of Red Bull's deficit of about 1s is engine. The rest the car (about 0.35s).
    Honda engine 130bhp less than Mercedes (in qualifying. Further away in race trim). = 13 x 0.13s = 1.7s. So 1.7s of McLaren's deficit of about 2s is engine. The rest is car (about 0.3s)
    Ferrari engine 20bhp less than Mercedes. = 2 x 0.13s = 0.26s. So 0.26s of Ferrari's deficit of about 0.8s is engine. The rest is car (about 0.54s).
    Williams has Mercedes engine. Therefore all its deficit of about 0.8s is car.

    Therefore order of chassis/aero: Mercedes/McLaren/Red Bull/Ferrari/Williams. Probably Toro Rosso is ahead of Ferrari on chassis too.

    Hope that clarifies.
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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Interesante.

    Para este año, yo estoy manejando valores desde 0,013s/cv para esta pista de Hungría, hasta los 0,016s/cv de Monza. ...
    Buscando la imperfección perfecta...

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    Interesante, McH, como los ensayos de "flexión" de los "flaps" de un ala delantera:
    Mario Keszeli ‏@techF1LES 3h3 hours ago #techF1 Front wing flap deflection test is carried out using this tool



    Mario Keszeli ‏@techF1LES 3h3 hours ago #techF1 Digital protractor is inseted into the cavity on top of the tool

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    La división F1 de Honda Racing "por dentro":

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Siempre resulta difícil "traducir" declaraciones de Arai, pero si esto es cierto, creo que al contrario de lo que se podría pensar, son unas noticias cojonudas. Por fin podríamos hablar de que ya tienen PU/UP "base", lástima que se la esperaba para Oz, pero aunque tarde, el Sr Arai ha cumplido.

    Ahora a buscar más rendimiento, vía la utilización de los "créditos/tokens" de forma "inteligente", y aquí ya tenemos el primer problema, pues a lo mejor hay que sacrificar algo de rendimiento este año con vistas al futuro, debido a que cada año el número de créditos cada vez va a ser menor.

    Esta Unidad Motriz "base" (que ha dado tanta guerra), parece que en Spa pudiera devenir en la Evo1. Supongo que volverán los problemas de fiabilidad otra vez hasta tenerla operativa al 100%, pero ahora ya tienen más conocimiento de por dónde vienen las "host***" y seguro que están mejor preparados. Ganitas de verla ya 100% operativa, a ver si puede ser a finales de la temporada.

    Vaya pasada poder observar el crecimiento de este proyecto desde cero.

    http://en.f1i.com/news/20345-honda-r...n-hungary.html
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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Jolín, el vídeo anterior está fantástico, en el minuto 30:08 parece que están siguiendo la carrera celebrada en Montmeló. Se pueden algunos datillos
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    En el minuto 30:24 parece que están siguiendo el GP de Canadá también aparecen datillos Parece que "boost" marca 2.7 bar
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    @Talisman, un forero del foro de Autosport, ha traducido lo más destacado del fantástico vídeo anterior:

    Given that the programme is written in close partnership with Honda I believe it would have been checked by them before broadcasting.

    I found it quite interesting overall. I wish the other engine makers were a tenth as open.

    They were very frank about the problems faced by Honda. Essentially the problem is with focal temperature control within the engine. In particular the MGUK temperature during operational use has been far higher than predicted so the performance of the motor degrades substantially. This is a problem that the other makers have not experienced because the MGUK in the Honda is close to the exhaust manifolds and therefore absorbs a lot of radiated heat from them. They showed several changes made over the season including redesigning the oil reservoir that attaches to the front of the engine to improve local airflow to the MGUK and changes made to the seal to prevent coolant leak from the motor. They mentioned that earlier versions of the PU were considerably larger and it took substantial work to reduce the size of the engine.

    The programme focuses a lot on Honda culture (which should NOT be mistaken for Japanese culture) and interestingly Arai often imagines how Mr Honda would react if he walked in on the project today which involves a lot of shouting. It talks about how he insisted that his engineers never follow the routes taken by other companies, finding interesting new ways to do things, fail, learn how to overcome failure and then succeed and win. How failure is essential in order to learn how to win. He also describes how if they got senior engineers from other companies the Honda engineers would end up merely supporting them in executing solutions they had learned elsewhere rather than learning how to solve them themselves which rather misses the point of why they are involved in F1.

    It also shows the passion of the engineers themselves and the emotions they feel at various points of the season, probably the most important being kuyashii which I can't translate into English but the closest approximate is the feeling after being defeated or failing, a mix of frustration, anger and feeling resolute not to let it happen again.

    http://forums.autosport.com/topic/19...9#entry7258357
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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