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    Gran vídeo, y lástima de idioma ...

    Versión en "occidental" YA!.

    Y si que aparecen datos de Silverstone...: MGU-H Tºin 689ºC; Tªexit 591ºC; 53344 rpm... a 1 bar... y más...

    Vamos a tener que aprender Nipón también???
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    En la parte que sale el GP de Canadá, aparece una temperatura de 1000 ºC en alguna parte del auto de JB y 1100ºC en el auto de FA. FA se retiró por problemas de temperatura en los escapes, esas temperaturas son respetables, ¿podrían ser de los escapes?
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    En la parte que sale el GP de Canadá, aparece una temperatura de 1000 ºC en alguna parte del auto de JB y 1100ºC en el auto de FA. FA se retiró por problemas de temperatura en los escapes, esas temperaturas son respetables, ¿podrían ser de los escapes?
    Creo que el único sitio en el que las temperaturas pueden alzanzar esos niveles, es en las bocachas de los colectores de escapes (las conexiones de los tubos de los escapes con las salidas de gases del bloque de motor), a excepción de los labios de cierre de las válvulas de escape, que pasan de los 1000º habitualmente en condiciones cálidas de carrera .

    Y por la lectura.
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    Muchas gracias, McH
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    En el foro de Autosport, siguen "traduciendo" pasajes del vídeo del fabricante Honda, centrándose en la problemática del MGU-K, que ya me explicaron Govy y McH en las pruebas invernales después de quedarme sin internet un mes.

    Parece ser que ya lo han solucionado, lo que son fantásticas noticias y coincidiría con lo que comentaba el Sr Arai, de que ya tenían "el ERS" completamente funcional. Pues sin "tocar nada más", con un MGU-K operando al 100% se puede obtener gran rendimiento, no sólo con la energía recuperada en la fase de frenada del auto sino también en el aprovechamiento de la energía capaz de "recolectar" vía MGU-H. A lo mejor no tienen que cambiar el tamaño del mismo para obtener un rendimiento aceptable.

    14:30 it's about poor form in winter testing, the team recorded lowest number of laps and slowest laptimes, reason for that is Honda had issue in heating

    15:50 the senior engineer explaining MGU-K heat issue that they encountered in testing

    16:15 then they still had heat issue at opening races, then go on to explain car concept (size zero) and engine concept (how compact Honda PU is, how challengin Honda concept is, what the issues are, etc)

    21:43 ERS engineers are talking about how to solve MGU-K heat issue, like possible layout change etc (but Is the scene really recorded just after Malaysia or bahrain?)

    29:45 Sakura mission room at Canada GP > poor race

    38:18 again, ERS engineers explaining about MGU-K's heating issue, coolant leak, seal damage etc, but this time how they "solved" it, like made improvements to seal and coolant pipe to overcome the heating issue in MGU-K (again, is the scene really recorded after Canada GP?)

    43:24 Sakura mission room at British GP > scoring point after dismal 2 races

    so that's the "script" and they chose MGU-K as a topic to explain heating, but it contains interesting implication and info nonetheless. Some of us guessed this already many times but maybe "localized overheating" everywhere, from ignition, exhaust to MGU-K, TC etc. It's not about overall cooling capacity cus if so they would put bigger radiator. Heat concentration due to compactness is the issue, so "circulate" and "dissipate" the heats are the key, i guess. If they can overcome this issue while keeping compact concept and achieve and increase performance, it would give substantial advantage to aero side as well as CoG (maybe it's already giving), so hopefully they master this concept and raise it to the ultimate level.

    http://forums.autosport.com/topic/19...9#entry7258701
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    , gracias por las ampliaciones , sabrosas, sabrosas...

    y una imagen "curiosa" , churrodinámica de un F1 sin FW (alerón delantero) ; Con las turning vanes y barge boards ... "trabajando a tope"

    Buscando la imperfección perfecta...

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    En la parte que sale el GP de Canadá, aparece una temperatura de 1000 ºC en alguna parte del auto de JB y 1100ºC en el auto de FA. FA se retiró por problemas de temperatura en los escapes, esas temperaturas son respetables, ¿podrían ser de los escapes?
    Sobre este particular, esto comentan en el foro Autosport:

    seems 1000C is normal working temp, at Canada they are talking about exhaust temp increased to 1129C instead of normal 1000C on Alonso's car. ALO retired due to this (damage from exhaust heat).

    On JB, they are talking about "exhaust pressure very unstable", then "hitting 115,000rpm limiter (MGU-H's max rpm is 125,000rpm, so why it's hitting limiter at 115,000 I'm not too sure, maybe due to the damage from heat, TC does not go beyond 115,000rpm? or Honda's TC/MGU-H is designed to operate with max rpm of 115,000? )". Eventually 5th cylinder lost all the power and retired.

    Regarding the figures turn into red, seems it's designed to be like that, it's purely graphical thing I think. Above certain level/threshold it turns to red so that it's easier to recognize visually, grasp the whole picture and spot the irregular quickly. Fuel flow fig goes red above 100kg/h as well.

    http://forums.autosport.com/topic/19...9#entry7258938
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Tremendo lo de la "brunete aduladora"

    Ya comentamos que la verdadera prueba de fuego para CS sería la 2ª parte de la temporada, donde un MV con más experiencia, podría ponerle las cosas más difíciles. Por una cosa u otra, Carlos no ha superado con claridad a Max en esta primera parte de la temporada y además ya se encuentra por detrás en el WDC. Por si las cosas ya no están difíciles, artículos como este en lugar de hacerle bien, es muy probable que se tornen en su contra.

    http://opinion.as.com/opinion/2015/0...80_096136.html
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    No es ninguna novedad el "modus opernadi" de STR o Frank Tost , hace mucho que han asumido y pregonado cláramente su "amor por la pasta" , aunque no se trate de la pasta italiana y luego se la unten en Red Bull.

    Frases habituales en Faenza : "papa paga pasta" ; "todo por la pasta" ; "la mejor pasta fresca" ; "falta pasta y sobra tomate" ...etc.

    Y no, no me he confundido y puesto las citas de "tito Bernie" , aunque también son de sus frases preferidas.

    En STR cuajan pilotos como Vergne, Ricciardo, Kvyat, Verstappen... ...y no se me olvida su "justificación existencial" Vettel.
    [Ironic Mode On] Es pura casualidad que solo se les promocionen en RBR [Ironic Mode Off] ...

    Ningún piloto "por méritos" tendrá jamas opciones en igualdad de conciones con los "pastosos" ...... "Modus Operandi".

    legítimo, pero a mi me parece bastante "penoso"
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    Al equipo McLaren le faltan asientos, porque menuda alineación tienen, JB, FA, SV y el "protegido" de Honda, Nobuharu Matsushita, que lo está haciendo genial en la GP2. Aquí va un perfil de éste último para conocerlo mejor:

    http://www.paddockscout.com/driver-p...tsushita/29472
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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    El equipo Toro Rosso ha estado realizando un "filming day" en el circuito de Ímola, han ensayado muchas "salidas" con MV, en aras a estar bien preparados para las nuevas limitaciones que en principio la FIA tiene previsto introducir en el próximo GP. También han dado a conocer el origen de la avería en el auto de CS:

    http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/to...tarts-at-imola
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Quién dicen que ha empezado a probar el nuevo sistema de salidas en real ??? (no en si.mulador) ... ...
    Si antes les "iluminamos el plumero" a los de STR... ...
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    @murumasa, forero del foro Autosport, nos trae noticias frescas sobre cómo le fue al equipo McLaren-Honda en el pasado GP de Hungría y sus planes futuros, con vistas a la prueba a disputar en Spa:

    Hungary summary
    mostly Arai quoted unless specified otherwise

    http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=66933
    http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=66968
    http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=66973
    http://as-web.jp/new...c_id=1&no=67009
    http://sportiva.shue...f1_93/index.php
    also f1-sokuho (f1 magazine)


    • the last 3 races they sometimes run with restricted power output (info in article)
    • (on introducing many new components at once) It's just that the decision (by strategy group meeting) to allow new entrants free 5th PU happened to be made at the timing of pre-Hungary. Not particularly because Hungary is suitable for us.
    • (On PU) Spec wise it's identical to Silverstone's, but little bit of modifications have been applied for more durability and reliability. We decided to introduce new set of components because we judged we'd be able to fight properly that way.
    • There's also strategical reason that we want to have spare parts in hands by introducing new parts here.


    Friday

    • It was productive day, being able to work on aero verification, PU driveability, ERS deployment and so on
    • here it's easier to get good balance between recovery and release/assist due to circuit characteristics, so system we set up worked perfectly


    Saturday

    • (On JB's 2nd attack in Q1) It's very complicated system. Maybe used steering switches with a combination of settings such that it caused issues. Lost all MGU-K assist (into start/finish line to commence the attack lap)
    • JB was 18km/h slower on the home straight speed trap than his prev and 1st attack lap (info on article)


    • (on ALO) Main power connector that connects and provides electricity to the whole chassis got loose and the car shut down as a result.
    • The connector concerned is located in a position where you cannot check from outside, so you have to remove the floor to see and find.


    Sunday

    • In today's race, we accomplished very good setup work on energy management and could use it to its full. Power unit has extracted everything it's got with no limitation whatsoever placed upon, even under this hot condition.
    • There was no issue system-wise. Not just power unit but also chassis have progressed a lot in 3 days, and we could confirm/verify the direction we're heading/taking is correct. I think that race pace wise we are closer to the front.


    • The spec itself is Silverstone's with some modifications applied, but it has more horsepower than Renault. We are no doubt superior to Renault in driveability that is essential for twisty section like S2 (of Hunagroring). But Red Bull is quick this weekend.
    • Our aero package is merely newly-born, so the difference is inevitable. Update from Austria is massive, so there are alot of things to be done on aero, ride height and mechanical, but we haven't been able to make much mileage with this package yet. There's a lot more to come.


    • Today we were lucky in some ways, but we could make proper setup in 3 days, so progressed a lot from British GP. The gap to the front is apparent and big, but from the feeling of FPs we knew that we would be able to run with respectable pace, in fact we had good battle throughout against STR and Lotus.


    • When Hamilton was chasing and closing up rapidly towards the flag, we told Fernando about that and he replied "No problem!", we felt relieved/encouraged by that.


    On future

    • F1 is entering 4-week summer break now, but after the summer break awaits Spa where it's tough for power unit. We have to make good preparation for Belgium GP, so there's no time for us to relax. In order to catch up the front, there are many things left to be done to ready new PU in time for Spa. It will be busy summer break for us. We'd like to do our utmost to work on developing PU to enter the 2nd half of the season.
    • Nothing changes the acknowledgement that PU output/performance increase is critical/indispensable. Not only about increasing power, but also chassis settings like wing, suspension and ride height need to be worked on / adjusted accordingly to accommodate/correspond to the increase in power. In this race we could confirm/verify the direction we're taking is correct, so we're going to analyze data, we must be united as one team. We cannot afford to say "learning stage" for long, so we'd like to move on to the next step.


    • It wouldn't be overstatement to call what we're planning to introduce at Spa (or after summer break) a "totally brand-new power unit".
    • But that's nothing more than a plan at this very moment. Right now we are working on development back at Honda R&D with target set on Spa. But even though we improve the performance significantly, we would have no choice but to postpone the introduction if the reliability doesn't follow/come with it. Therefore we cannot say anything for certain until the very last minute.


    • What will be essential at Spa is not only outright power, but also proper energy management over a long section/distance. Much depends on whether we'll be able to recover the exhaust energy enough or not. There's good possibility that we end up using up all the energy before completing one lap.


    Also official releases to complement: http://www.mclaren.c...ian-grand-prix/

    This F1i interview on Arai post race fits his Japanese interview completely: http://en.f1i.com/ne...in-hungary.html

    (I'm beginning to think this F1i site is pretty decent, also seems they make their own effort to talk to Arai exclusively, many of materials only available here. Also you can see the nuance in Arai's remark, i mean he's clearly happy despite fully acknowledging tasks ahead. that's why I appreciate "raw" material like that and think he or anyone should speak by his own words, in English or whatever, as much as possible no matter how clumsy his English is, rather than through translator.)

    http://forums.autosport.com/topic/19...2#entry7260668
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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Muchas gracias por toda esta actualización sobre cómo van solventando los problemas en Honda. A ver si pronto consiguen estar al 100%.

    Como dice McH, lástima no saber "japonesu".

    Y gracias también por la lectura.

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    El Autosport.





    Enlace de descarga: https://mega.co.nz/#!6x9BVRAT!Jr_qUh...xr234nKUwrlJvM

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    G.C. Minardi, es una persona que nos da bastantes titulares aunque no siempre se materialicen. En esta ocasión, comenta que Mercedes motorizará al equipo Red Bull ya desde la próxima temporada. Supongo que Bernardino ha tenido bastante que decir entre bastidores.


    También comenta una cosa interesante, y que podría estar bien tirada, los de MK estarían interesados en un piloto "top", ahora para vencer al binomio LH/Mercedes, ya no vale sólamente un chasis "redbull", van a necesitar un piloto "top", experto, veterano y capaz de de lidiar con todo lo que conlleva luchar por el campeonato con un coche que a priori, puede ser ligeramente "inferior" al de los de la "estrella". JB, KR,....... ¿otro? A ver si el "tito" José Luis va a acabar teniendo razón

    http://www.minardi.it/f1-red-bull-me...-e-cosa-fatta/
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Gracias por la revista, Govy
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    gracias por las lecturas , y

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    Gracias, llumia.

    Buena lectura para la playa y espectacular portada.

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    Tenía la sospecha que te iba a gustar
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Jolín, con la prensa "lameculera", de ser el máximo adelantador cuando en realidad ha sido el más adelantado. Esta segunda parte de la temporada nos vamos a divertir

    http://www.mundodeportivo.com/motor/...descartar.html
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Pues el señor Arai, ha hablado, otra cosa es que podamos "pasar a claro" lo que ha dicho

    http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/120224
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    También ha hablado R. Dennis, que ha puesto de manifiesto una problemática que ha sido evidente durante toda la temporada, debido a la falta de rendimiento global del auto, son incapaces de poner la temperatura de los neumáticos dentro de la "ventana/intervalo de trabajo", salvo en casos muy puntuales. Cree que cada vez están más cerca de encontrar el "G-spot" y que cuando llegue en ese momento, comenzará el "círculo virtuoso".

    http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/de...y-to-light-up/
    Última edición por llumia; 05/08/2015 a las 16:53
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Muchas gracias por todas las actualizaciones chicos, en espcial a llumia, que dbee tener el 90% de los post de esta página.

    Que sepís que yo "sus leo" pero no tengo tiempo para andar buscando en otras fuentes y aportar noticias al hilo.



    De todos modos, el último enlace que has colgado llumia, sobre la incapacidad del McLaren para calentar las gomas, me ha recordado algo que yo llevaba dandole vueltas un tiempo... y es que, no se por qué (no se si viene de alguna noticia antigua, o simplemente de alugna paja mental mia) pero llevo mucho tiempo con la sensación de que al McLaren le falta algo más que motor, le falta también aerodinámica (al igual que ocurrió el año pasado). Che ne pensate?
    "F1 has the right technology but the wrong image, while ironically Formula E is the opposite." - Joe Saward

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    Coincido contigo roller, desde el principio de la temporada recuerdo que andábamos "mosca", con el chasis del MP4-30, yo creo que parte del posible "déficit" por ese lado, es debido a sacrificios obligados por distintos problemas de la Unidad Motriz, pero que el chasis propiamiente dicho también contribuye "per se" al déficit global creo que casi lo podemos dar por seguro.

    Otra cosa es poder calcular el "peso individual" del chasis y la unidad motriz en el valor global del déficit

    A "nivel aero", por primera vez esta temporada y al contario que los años anteriores, han cambiado la "filosofía", en lugar de ir a por "picos" de "downforce", tratan de buscar valores aprovechables de la misma.

    Ahora siguen con la misma filosofía pero lo que han hecho es cambiar el concepto "aero" con el que empezaron la temporada, lo que puede ser un indicativo que las sospechas que tienes roller son completamente fundadas. En Austria, ya introdujeron gran parte del "nuevo" "paquete", pero duró poco por el accidente de FA. En Hungría, lo acabaron de completar. Matt Morris, comentaba que este año habían logrado aligerar notablemente los tiempos de fabricación, hecho que se ha reflejado en la rápida introducción de esa actualización "aero".

    Por el lado de la Unidad Motriz, supongo que con la nueva especificación, volverán, a corto plazo, problemas de fiabilidad otra vez. Espero que no les lleve muchos GP's solventarlos, para ver hasta dónde les lleva esta nueva Unidad Motriz, poder suprimir soluciones de compromiso por ejemplo a nivel "aero" y poder conocer lo que da de sí este MP4-30 "mejorado".

    Lo que me gusta de este proyecto, son dos cosas:

    - Una es que el Sr Arai sigue comentado que ha tenido que "cocinar" algo muy radical.
    - Y la otra, que con toda la que les está cayendo, no les tiembla la mano y siguen con su idea inicial.

    Editado: Ups, no me acordaba que en el GP de UK, introdujeron un chasis más ligero, total que a media temporada tenemos un coche nuevo.

    Por eso creo que tienes razón roller, cuando han realizado cambios tan profundos tanto en el chasis como a nivel "aero", es porque por ese lado las cosas no debían ir tan bien como se pensaba. Impresionante la velocidad de reacción que han tenido, logrando poner en pista un "MP4-30B" a media temporada.
    Última edición por llumia; 05/08/2015 a las 22:49
    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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    Los resultados de la encuesta que hicieron hace unos meses.



    Full Formula 1 fan survey results revealed




    To find out what the most dedicated motorsport fans think of Formula 1, AUTOSPORT, F1 Racing and Motorsport News launched a global fan survey in May.
    Nearly 35,000 people responded, and the results, published in full below, cover everything from why you watch F1, your likes and dislikes, to how you would change it in the future.
    The idea of the survey was to help identify F1's weaknesses while amplifying its strengths, and the thinking behind publishing the results in full is to give fans' voices as much exposure as possible.
    Some of the findings are surprising, but they provide a fully-independent insight into the thinking of serious fans of Formula 1 - 36 per cent of respondents watch every session of a grand prix weekend, and nearly 65 per cent have been following F1 for at least 15 years.
    First up, every current driver, team and grand prix ranked in order of popularity:

    Full order
    1 Lewis Hamilton
    2 Kimi Raikkonen
    3 Fernando Alonso
    = Jenson Button
    5 Sebastian Vettel
    6 No favourite
    7 Daniel Ricciardo
    8 Valtteri Bottas
    9 Felipe Massa
    10 Nico Rosberg
    11 Max Verstappen
    12 Nico Hulkenberg
    13 Romain Grosjean
    14 Marcus Ericsson
    15 Daniil Kvyat
    16 Sergio Perez
    17 Felipe Nasr
    18 Carlos Sainz Jr
    19 Pastor Maldonado
    20 Will Stevens
    21 Roberto Merhi

    Full order
    1 Ferrari
    2 McLaren
    3 No favourite
    4 Williams
    5 Mercedes
    6 Red Bull
    7 Lotus
    8 Force India
    9 Sauber
    10 Toro Rosso
    11 Manor

    Full order
    1 Belgium
    2 Monaco
    3 Canada
    4 Great Britain
    5 Italy
    6 No favourite
    7 Hungary
    8 USA
    9 Brazil
    10 Japan
    11 Singapore
    12 Australia
    13 Abu Dhabi
    14 Austria
    15 Bahrain
    16 Spain
    17 Malaysia
    18 China
    19 Russia
    20 Mexico
    How long have you been following F1?
    Less than a year 0.4%
    Between 1-3 years 5.0%
    Between 4-15 years 30.1%
    More than 15 years 64.5%
    How many grands prix have you attended in the last 10 years?
    None 44.8%
    Between 1-5 41.3%
    Between 6-12 8.9%
    More than 12 5.0%
    Would you, or have you, visited a different country from the one you live in to watch a grand prix?
    Yes 67.6%
    No 32.4%




    If you don't plan to attend a grand prix, why not?
    Too expensive 37.6%
    Too far to travel 4.5%
    Not enough access 3.3%
    Prefer watching on TV 10.5%
    Other 4.2%
    I do plan to attend a GP 39.9%
    What is the main reason you watch Formula 1?
    Rivalry and competitiveness between drivers and teams 42.6%
    The speed and risks involved 14.8%
    To follow one driver or team 6.3%
    Technical innovations 14%
    Glamour of F1 2.7%
    History and prestige 14.2%
    Other 5.4%

    Which of the following would give you more insight into F1?
    More interviews with drivers or team personnel over a GP weekend 14.6%
    More information about teams' headquarters 6.7%
    More social media access 8.7%
    Opportunities for fans to access the F1 paddock 24.5%
    Better on-screen info graphics 29.8%
    Better camera angles (in and out of car) 15.7%

    Do you subscribe to watch F1 on TV?
    Yes 34.7%
    No 33.3 %
    Not necessary with my TV package 32%

    If you have access to live TV coverage, how much do you usually watch at home during a GP weekend?
    Practice, qualifying and the race 19.4%
    All sessions plus pre- and post-race discussion 36.0%
    Qualifying and the race 36.7%
    Just the race 3.8%
    Only highlights 1%
    No access to live coverage 3%
    When watching a grand prix do you use a second screen to access live timing through the F1 app or formula1.com website?
    Yes 21.3%
    No 49.8%
    Sometimes 28.9%
    How often do you record coverage of sessions and then watch 'as live' at another time of day?
    Always 17.1%
    Sometimes 52.9%
    Never 30%













    Do you think teams should be allowed to run third cars?
    Yes 26.5%
    Yes but only for young drivers 39.5%
    No 28.2%
    No opinion 5.7%

    Do you think F1 should abolish the rule about running two specs of tyre compound in the race?
    Yes 52.3%
    No 37.5%
    No opinion 10.2%
    Should F1 ban testing and use Fridays as an open test day instead?
    Yes 34.4%
    No 50.1%
    No opinion 15.6%
    Do you agree with having a two-tier F1 race that has manufacturers competing in a different class to independent teams with a spec engine or chassis?
    Yes 18.9%
    No 70.5%
    No opinion 10.7%




    Do you think F1 has to be environmentally friendly?
    Yes 41.1%
    No 50.9%
    No opinion 8%
    Do you think it's important that Formula 1 is at the cutting edge of technology?
    Yes 90.1%
    No 7.6%
    No opinion 2.2%

    Would you like to see an open tyre formula to allow rival companies to compete against each other?
    Yes 77.9%
    No 15.3%
    No opinion 6.9%

    Would you be happy to see F1 become a spec series using identical chassis and engine, like GP2, in a bit to reduce costs?
    Yes 9.6%
    No 86%
    No opinion 4.4%
    Is it important that F1 engines are capable of producing over 1000bhp?
    Yes 48.1%
    No 37.9%
    No opinion 14.1%
    Would you favour slowing outright performance of F1 cars down to promote better racing?
    Yes 21.3%
    No 69.1%
    No opinion 9.7%

    Do you like F1 visiting new territories such as Korea, Russia and Azerbaijan?
    Yes 37.4%
    No 45.2%
    No opinion 17.5%

    Do you think F1 benefits from having car manufacturers competing in the sport?
    Yes 88.4%
    No 6.4%
    No opinion 5.2%




    Do you agree with the statement that F1 is a business first and a sport second?
    Yes 48.5%
    No 45.2%
    No opinion 6.3%
    What is your gender?
    Male 92.2%
    Female 7.8%
    What is your age?
    Under 18 3.9%
    18-40 59.3%
    41-60 27.3%
    61+ 9.4%



    http://www.autosport.com/news/report...NjAwMjU1NTczS0

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    - Y la otra, que con toda la que les está cayendo, no les tiembla la mano y siguen con su idea inicial.

    Esto puede ser o muy bueno o muy malo. Muy bueno si es que tienen claro que su concepto es muy bueno y que solo le falta tiempo. Muy malo si no es tan bueno pero tienen un punto de vista muy cerrado y no quieren ver más allá.

    Espero que sea lo primero.

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    LH, no quiere perder el liderato del piloto más conocido:

    Alonso carried his Renault to third place in Singapore. After Vettel and Rosberg wrecked their own races, he seized a podium from a car that did not deserve it.

    That is the difference between the great and the merely good.

    Martin Brundle (Sing '09)

    "Alonso has been brilliant all weekend, absolutely brilliant". "A driver not always easyto love, but very easy to admire".

    Martin Brundle (Sing '10)

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